>>>> Cell and Frieza Saga Krillin. There are people on both sides, but the general consensus is that Krillin is the strongest human. And Vegeta, taking advantage of training in high Gravity, increased his power level by the millions. SSJ Goku would've wasted 19 in a matter of seconds, seriously. Krillen stops training after the 3 years they trained to prepare for the androids. I think the best thing we can do is go off of what Toriyama said about Krillin being stronger because both Krillin and Tien fight at such a lower level of power. Krillin couldn't do that. ?By that point, that's not much of an increase at all. that's why Ten said he couldn’t surpass Goku by doing the same training as him and that all he could do was quickly grasp just the point of his training and finally uniquely refine his techniques. 28 Stronger: Pan Via Dragon Ball Super (Episode 43) energy/vigor [genki] and bravery [yuuki], and being in one’s right mind [shouki]. Oh yeah, Yamcha's tien's rival. Piccolo didn't have incredible training conditions and still he managed to improve so many millions. ?Fuck, all of them got destroyed by Nappa,there is no reason for a plot device there fucking idiot. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? No. Author statements are not relevant. With orginal Japanese words such as: Answer:Freeza can control his battle power remember? The thing is: Tien technically isn't a human. Everyone increases faster than ever!There is no exception for the humans who improved 732% in a few months aftertraining with Kami,the same happens again when they train with Kaio-sama or by themselves for the Android saga.It is obvious that Goku and Piccolo are better,but Piccolowas a Namek and Gohan a sayajin in the sayan saga and they were close to the humans.What some guys are saying is that Piccolowithout nail couldn't reach the millions and that is retarded.Now put that in your pipe and smoke it DUMBASS!!! Krillin could fly around the world while he do a 500m run. Tien never stopped training throughout the whole series. I’ll quickly tell you why now. In dragonball, vs dragonball z and Dragon ball super, it is much easier to get a sense of who was stronger between the humans because the emphasis was on what well trained human martial artists could do. Even going back further Android-Buu sagas aswell. They both failed equally hard. ?You miss the fucking point that none of them needs a master at that point.Goku ignored gravity training during those years,so there is no reason why Ten could not do the same.I don't know why do you think millions is such an amazing number to achieve in dbz universe for a z-senshi which is a fucking heroe ...well again gravity is not the main thing.MFG dumb old theory:What they meant is that is grow as a fighter but for increasing their power, any aid is preferable to no aid. Register Start a Wiki 7,606 Pages. Your preconceived notions of humans strength are the only reason to downgrade them so much. 1. On a plot of land deep in the mountains, the two of them immerse themselves in training. Not to be mean but how are Toriyamas statements not relevant. In dbz Toriyama had to make the heroes get stronger faster,because the enemies were getting stronger too by every chapter. Ask yourself this: If Ten wasn't standing right next to them do you really think Piccolo would have flown down to wherever Ten was and made the same offer? achieved power levels above Nail.Do you maggots understand? I think Toriyama also called Krillin the strongest human at some point. Tien is human... And he is stronger than Krillin. Krillin & Tien say to each other "Hey Tien. Then it seems like krillin slacks off while tien keeps training. DBZ Debate (Qaamans Land Vs. blackenfist) He begins to spectate how strong they've become. It goes beyond his background and training. One of his parents was a member of the Triclops race of aliens, which is why he has three eyes and why he can perform bizarre techniques that other Z-Fighter's cannot emulate (like growing the extra arms). That is the reason why the humans improved in a few months from 250 to near 2000 in the Earth.They are capable to improve by themselves in the earth.I'm sure that if there isn't nappa's statement saying that saibamen had a pl around 1200,you would say that the saibamen were weak and that there is no way the humans could improve so much in a few months.Plus,these guys are not regular humans,a normal human can't make the feats presented in the world tournaments by the z-heroes.Dumb MFG old theory:So Goku going from 8k to 90k had absolutly no effect on the humans being left in the dust. You can't sit there and look at Goku or Piccolo's increases and say that Ten probably made the same advancements.Answer:Piccolo didn't use extreme gravity training ever.What destroyed the humans was ssj transformation and piccolo's fusion with kami.That's why Ten didn't accept to train in the rosat(room of spirit and time),but he accepted to train for the android saga and obviously he was confident that he could be useful.What same advancements?I'm saying that if piccolo improved 100 millions without fusions or gravity why couldn't Tenshinhan improve 20 millions?MFG dumb old theory:Without Nail or Kami he probably would be hard pressed to do so. Krillin is stronger then Tien and Yamcha and he gets destroyed by base Frieza. Considering Nail didn't ever bring anything about Namekian heritage or any other Nameks into the equation as he talked to Piccolo, it's a HUGE and retarded assumption to think he's comparing his battle power to them. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end. Tenshinhan versus Krillin/ Who is stronger. Once the Mini Monk tanks a slew of direct hits - including a variant of Bruce Lee's legendary Dragon Stomp - the fake Lee realizes he may be outmatched. (Namekian Fusion, Zenkai's, SSJ forms)Answer:Not again dumbass!!!!!! Kneel down and kiss the wilson pro staff!!!!! He could easily be hurt from the attack, also note how there is smoke coming from his body.SK It doesn't drain life force, that was a viz mistake. During the namek events tien trains with kaio but krillin has his potential unlocked by guru- which is the better power up? They fought alongsid… The possibilities are limitless. After the Cell Games Krillin stopped training and got married. These 40-tons are ridiculous for obvious reasons.In daizenshuu 7 Page 119"Just, there cannot have a big difference between the base fighting potential and his original base (powerlevel)to use it , and if the fighter persists in carrying out a very powerful kaioken his body can explode under the effect of a powerful energy discharge.For the one whose fighting potential reaches 8.000 the limits to use safely kaioken must be the double, that is to say 16.000.For the one who has a potential of 3.000.000 kaioken canincrease his powerlevel ten more times "The text about kaioken also states that kaioken uses life forceFrench daizenshuu also states that neo kikoho is a stronger version from kikoho.But, above you could read that if you use an attack with life force and your power level is too low,your body will explode.Regarding daizenshuu is clear to me that this text suggests that Tenshinhan had a power level in the millions.It clearly states that your body can explodeif you use an attack who is a lot stronger than your base power levelex:Goku to use safely his kaio ken x 10 had to reach 3 millions.So shin kikoho is a lot more powerful than kaioh ken x 10 or 20 and if Ten's body didn't explode it is obvious thathe had a pl in the millions.Dumb MFG old theory:But Piccolo's power is most definitely due to the Nail fusion. He would lose power.Dumb MFG old theory:Gravity was one of the reasons Goku increased his power from 400 to 8,000. He also brought up Dende; Is he now in the hundreds of millions too?Answer:Again with mindless shit fucking imbecile? It is funny when humans improve more and faster than Goku in Kami's lookout in a short period of time you say, This scan from the Daizenshuu states that. Krillin is not naturally bald; due to his original monastic training, he merely shaves his head and waxes it. Presented as a worthy challenger to Dragon Ball's Goku, Tien even manages - with some luck - to defeat the protagonist in the finale of the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament. In fact, this is probably one of the biggest debates among fans today. If Krillin were able to use it, it would probably be stronger. Could mean a lot of things though, it could have been an offhand comment to Toriyama. DBZ fan with a brain:Seeing that Tien and the others showed up to fight beings that where so much powerful than freeza shows that they were in the millions specially, cos they felt Freeza’s suppressed level and afterwards Piccolo told them to not show up if they couldn’t become strong enough and that is the reason why tenshinhan left Chaozu behind.Here you can see Piccolo's warning to Tenshinhan,Krillin and Yamcha:Akira Toriyama uses his wisest member Piccolo to tell us that Tenshinhan,Yamcha and Krillin would get to the millions during those 3 years of training,ie,the ones who couldn't reach a battle power in the millions shouldn't show up.They showed up to fight specially Tenshinhan.Obviously, anyone out of the millions or bellow Freeza's supressed battle power who was at least above 3 millions would get in the way.Its just for the series to retain any form of logicality, he needs to be in the low millions. That's more than Android 16 and Android 18 did, as he completely no selled their attacks. don't be an idiot, even in Dragonball Krillin did better against Tien than Yamcha. To get to 1,500,000, he'd have to increase his power by 500,000.Answer:Are you fucking retarded??? Krillin is the weakest. Question. This has been a debate I've seen so many times throughout the years from the Dragon Ball franchise. That is, once again, just going by the logic established in the series and ignoring Toriyama 's typical haphazardness.Answer:Are you fucking retarded?????? he has physical idiosyncrasies that can't be considered that of an Earthling, such as splitting into four people, and growing arms from his shoulders. In the past, it was clear that Roshi had been surpassed by Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and even Chiaotzu, but this may no longer be true.If he's stronger than Tien, there's a good chance that he could defeat Yamcha and Krillin as well. are all considered weak because they cant stop making the saiyans stronger and stronger. Kaio's training is that good.Tenshinhan always has shown that he could make leaps in power in a short amount of time. Since Nail's been living some of his life with a power of 42K, having a power of 42K or less is obviously "believable" to him. 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Archived. he thinks...MFG dumb old theory:Cell was not hurt from Tiens Shin Kikoho's, he was just merely pushed back for a couple of minutesDBZ fan with a brain:OMFG are you fucking retarded?? Owned pretty bad Again!!!!!!!!!!!!! But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. He made the series and knows who is stronger etc. Weighted clothing only works to an extent, hence Goku/Vegeta resorting to higher Gravity, and Tenshin most definitely reached that extent. Goku brought Ten up as possible replacement after Gohan got absorbed. In the sayajin saga where the difference in gravity is the same we have Goku with 8.000 and the others around 2.000. In dbz power levels grow faster and faster for everyone(all dbz heroes) regardless how they train. "...I highly doubt a piccolo under 30,000 would be "unbelievable" to nail considering he's sensed powers over 40K and even fought freeza himself. It's Krillin but Tien's Tribeam is stronger than what Krillin can do but obviously has it's shitty side effects. Like his best friend Chaozu, he was initially an antagonist in Dragon Ball who debuted during the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament, competing against Goku and his friends. For me, the text is all there is. He attacked Dodoria with a chi blast, thinking it killed him, then was shocked when the dust settled and Dodoria was unharmed. In the three years before the Cyborgs he was training Gohan. ... You can’t show one feat of Krillin and Tien surviving a planet busting attack. An attack being x500 is farfetched, but no more than the SSJ2 multiplier on many lists. Krillin has six small dots on his forehead and a monk-like orange gi as a child. So now seeing the two again. Master Roshi's power retcon once again makes him someone who can keep up with at least some of the Z-Warriors. Edit: Grammar. There are people on both sides, but the general consensus is that Krillin is the strongest human. Characters. ,but Popo also trained Goku to combat Piccolo who was the main villain at the time. Even during the battle with Buu, he gallantly appears. Mastering the shin kikoho brought his raw ki up in a rapid succession. Among Dragon Ball Z fans, there's a pretty fierce debate over whether Krillin is actually stronger than Tien. Once again, assuming he's less than 1 million just because it doesn't comply with faulty calculations is retarded.Question:Lets say Tien's 1,000,000. ?lolYou fail, kami is gone, piccolo’s personality is in charge now,and he is not going to make kind suggestions.Owned again!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tien's speed is so great that makes Yamcha and Krillin not being able to see him at all. Just look at the facts. !Actually,it is the only way to understand the story,surprise surprise,goku trained on room of spirit and time (who has a gravity level of 50) in db and he got almost nothing.I guess rosat(room of spirit and time) didn't have extreme conditions there and gravity 50 is less than 10.lol Next you will say that gravity chamber is better. User blog:Bio-electricity2/Who is stronger,Tien ,yamcha,or krillin? !Dumb MFG old theory:No, but he does show respect and Kami is the kind of guy that is generous and give favors.Answer:OMFG how can you keep making these dumb biased statements??? Why because, Yamcha is tien's rival and both have show to be stronger than krillin throughout the series. BOG and ROF Tien clearly over shadows Krillin. Basically whoever manages to land a hit first. You could argue this makes tien the stronger of the two by the time buu appears but there is really nothing to confirm this. Not to mention, nail's nonchalance seems to be part of his character. Tien was the star student of Tsuru-Sen'nin, the long-time rival to Master Roshi. I think that it was through turning ki into formidable power that Goku drew closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe. Chazou is also strong … Obviously, Piccolo was even stronger then Nail just by training with kaio-sama for a week. While defeating the off-brand model is nowhere near as impressive as the real deal, Krillin is stronger than a Bruce Lee. Wikis. Posted by. !Dumb MFG old theoryYes, but not to the extent Goku or Piccolo did on Namek.Answer:Finally, you are opening your thick skull.lolNot to the extent of a ssj Get it?Dumb MFG old theoryYes, it has nothing to do with them training with Kami and getting weighted clothing for the first time. So just imagine what he did while receiving more intense training than the Saiyan and staying longer than Goku in that planet. Although Toriyama said that Krillin is the strongest pure earthling, Tien is actually stronger overall and is part alien (3 eyed race). Something Ten didn't have.Answer:Actually is the opposite,cos piccolo used his weighted clothing during those 3 years and you don't know how muchweight had that outfit.Ten had his extreme training conditions created by himself with everything he learned in the past,Kami style/Namek training methods and Kaio style alongside with kaio-sama training methods.Piccolo didn't have your "special conditions" either and he increased at least 100 milions.Again gravity is not reliable to prove nothing.So it makes sense that apart from Vegeta all of them had their personal intensiveconditions.In piccolo's case gravity wasn't an issue to improve.Simply Toriyama didn't care about those details.You got clapped down again!!!!!!!!!!!!! Krillin is stronger physically but Roshi is smarter as a fighter. 18. It's obvious that Tenshin got at least a third of an increase as all the hardcore saiyans and nameks got.He'd keep on breaking his human limits as he did as early as dragonball time. was the equivalent to thousands of years of training on earth. Once the alien races started taking advantage of their gifts they destroyed the humans and that is my point. All the massive increases that put Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo into the millions were either incredible training conditions, or genetic gifts. High Gravity training has been clearly shown to aid immensely.Answer:Do you enjoy being made to look stupid?? He is at least stronger than Tenshinhan during the Cell Games, and most likely the entire android arc as well. Nail says Piccolo gained unbelievable power and that already places him above Nail. Santiago. Seriously, Krillin being stronger is such a cop out and it doesn't make sense. Usually not interacting with his allies, he continues his journey of training with just Chaozu and rushes to the scene whenever anything happens. !Actually it is crucial and clearly proves that Toriyama wasn't thinking about gravity as the only way to improveor else Toriyama wouldn't make a mistake like that.Worse, vegeta was training in 150 after mastering 300 in those 7 years.Meaning that when Goku trained at 10x earths gravity (and mastered it) on Kaio's planet, his base powerlevel went up to "over 8.000". Those are all examples of Tenshinhan exceeding normal training methods when he was at a disadvantage. Krillin From Dragon Ball Z The Tournament Of Power. !Goku improved a lot by dragon ball standards.In dbz parameters changed,they are not fighting anymore against humans.They are fighting against aliens and against enemies where former levels and rate increase became irrelevant.The rate increase is that like in DB all of them need to improve a lot more to stay in the story.You confuse dragon ball increases with dbz increases. We are debating in-universe reasoning; not that the plot dictates increasesAnswer:Now,you want to use the plot as an excuse???Pathetic!!!!! 4,375. In the Bojack movie Tien was on par with Trunks while Krillin was too busy being scared by the fact that Piccolo, Trunks, Vegeta, and Gohan were in the tournament. loooooooooolYour point is continually disproved,those idiots on MFG brainwashed you.lolAfter getting bludgeoned for the umpteenth time,you should take your ass whooping like a man and comeback to your beloved circle of friends with your dumb interpretation of dbz!!!!! They kind of put Tien in the same pot but he was able to do some stuff through the story, like keeping Cell down to buy them some time. Question. This scan shows that even at a much higher power levels, the gravity still affects them. With Kaio, he had longer and harder training than Goku, so Tenshin being in the millions it is a Fact.In dragonball, it was shown that he's equivalent to goku in power gains.Tenshinhan always trains hard,and he still invents new things and find new methods to get stronger. That's a huge increase.Before: Raditz stronger than goku and Piccolo by a long shotAfter: Tenshinhan stronger than Raditz by a long shotTenshinhan after training in much less time compared to Goku surpasses Raditz. Tenshinhan's During Those 7 Years After Cell, Vol. Gravity was the sole reason Goku increased his power to 90,000. They kind of put Tien in the same pot but he was able to do some stuff through the story, like keeping Cell down to buy them some time. He's a rare pure martial artist, who only wishes to get, Yamcha is admitting or already knows that. In a fight my bet is on Krillin. And when I mention training with Goku I mean the 3 years before the Cyborgs, not the 7 years after Cell's defeat.Answer:I'm trying to say that if the fusion with Nail is what made him increase so much during those 3 years, tell me why he couldn't keep up with Goku and Vegeta after a fusion with Kami and 7 years of training.Plus,Gohan who has more potential than Piccolo and trained with him and ssj Goku was miles away from Piccolo.Actually, Piccolo says that Gohan Krillin and Tenshinhan belong to the same branch of power,ie,several millions.Dumb MFG old theory:Which further backs up my stance that once you get used to one method it no longer becomes benificial (Ten's weighted clothing) and that it takes extreme training conditions to give these massive leaps of power. their training was too different to draw comparisons to, because Kami trained them to. Tien is stronger. Goku contemplated fusing with Tien, before noticing Vegeta reappear on Earth. Wikis. The only one worth mentioning is Super Saiyan Goku.A power above 100% Freeza.Tenshinhan can make up any special training routines that would make a significant difference supported by the fact that Tenshinhanoutrights states that he will adapt Kaio's training to go along with his own training making him incredibly strong in the several millions.Once again, based on Tenshinhan's increases we see this:Before: Tenshinhan was weaker than Old DaimaoAfter 3 years: Tenshinhan became equal to Weighted Goku and stronger than old DaimaohThis is all after Tenshinhan trained under Karin for a bit and training with Chaozu. Two Words: PWNED, NOOB!!! He also had tougher training with Kaio for 266 days, so his training was totally different from Goku's and not comparable. It shows that you gain power faster, the higher you get.This is what happens in dbz with everyone who belongs to the z-group.Even, if they are weaker than freeza 100%,obviously, Android 20 was that strong, then it means 19 is even weaker(stated in the daizenshuu). He saves Dende. He is easily stronger than Krillen. 2. Krillin couldn't touch a Ginyu even with his potential energy unlocked so how is Krillin stronger than Tien? Cell Saga Tien >>>>> Cell and Frieza Saga Krillin. There are people on both sides, but the general consensus is that Krillin is the strongest human. And Vegeta, taking advantage of training in high Gravity, increased his power level by the millions. SSJ Goku would've wasted 19 in a matter of seconds, seriously. Krillen stops training after the 3 years they trained to prepare for the androids. I think the best thing we can do is go off of what Toriyama said about Krillin being stronger because both Krillin and Tien fight at such a lower level of power. Krillin couldn't do that. ?By that point, that's not much of an increase at all. that's why Ten said he couldn’t surpass Goku by doing the same training as him and that all he could do was quickly grasp just the point of his training and finally uniquely refine his techniques. 28 Stronger: Pan Via Dragon Ball Super (Episode 43) energy/vigor [genki] and bravery [yuuki], and being in one’s right mind [shouki]. Oh yeah, Yamcha's tien's rival. Piccolo didn't have incredible training conditions and still he managed to improve so many millions. ?Fuck, all of them got destroyed by Nappa,there is no reason for a plot device there fucking idiot. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? No. Author statements are not relevant. With orginal Japanese words such as: Answer:Freeza can control his battle power remember? The thing is: Tien technically isn't a human. Everyone increases faster than ever!There is no exception for the humans who improved 732% in a few months aftertraining with Kami,the same happens again when they train with Kaio-sama or by themselves for the Android saga.It is obvious that Goku and Piccolo are better,but Piccolowas a Namek and Gohan a sayajin in the sayan saga and they were close to the humans.What some guys are saying is that Piccolowithout nail couldn't reach the millions and that is retarded.Now put that in your pipe and smoke it DUMBASS!!! Krillin could fly around the world while he do a 500m run. Tien never stopped training throughout the whole series. I’ll quickly tell you why now. In dragonball, vs dragonball z and Dragon ball super, it is much easier to get a sense of who was stronger between the humans because the emphasis was on what well trained human martial artists could do. Even going back further Android-Buu sagas aswell. They both failed equally hard. ?You miss the fucking point that none of them needs a master at that point.Goku ignored gravity training during those years,so there is no reason why Ten could not do the same.I don't know why do you think millions is such an amazing number to achieve in dbz universe for a z-senshi which is a fucking heroe ...well again gravity is not the main thing.MFG dumb old theory:What they meant is that is grow as a fighter but for increasing their power, any aid is preferable to no aid. Register Start a Wiki 7,606 Pages. Your preconceived notions of humans strength are the only reason to downgrade them so much. 1. On a plot of land deep in the mountains, the two of them immerse themselves in training. Not to be mean but how are Toriyamas statements not relevant. In dbz Toriyama had to make the heroes get stronger faster,because the enemies were getting stronger too by every chapter. Ask yourself this: If Ten wasn't standing right next to them do you really think Piccolo would have flown down to wherever Ten was and made the same offer? achieved power levels above Nail.Do you maggots understand? I think Toriyama also called Krillin the strongest human at some point. Tien is human... And he is stronger than Krillin. Krillin & Tien say to each other "Hey Tien. Then it seems like krillin slacks off while tien keeps training. DBZ Debate (Qaamans Land Vs. blackenfist) He begins to spectate how strong they've become. It goes beyond his background and training. One of his parents was a member of the Triclops race of aliens, which is why he has three eyes and why he can perform bizarre techniques that other Z-Fighter's cannot emulate (like growing the extra arms). That is the reason why the humans improved in a few months from 250 to near 2000 in the Earth.They are capable to improve by themselves in the earth.I'm sure that if there isn't nappa's statement saying that saibamen had a pl around 1200,you would say that the saibamen were weak and that there is no way the humans could improve so much in a few months.Plus,these guys are not regular humans,a normal human can't make the feats presented in the world tournaments by the z-heroes.Dumb MFG old theory:So Goku going from 8k to 90k had absolutly no effect on the humans being left in the dust. You can't sit there and look at Goku or Piccolo's increases and say that Ten probably made the same advancements.Answer:Piccolo didn't use extreme gravity training ever.What destroyed the humans was ssj transformation and piccolo's fusion with kami.That's why Ten didn't accept to train in the rosat(room of spirit and time),but he accepted to train for the android saga and obviously he was confident that he could be useful.What same advancements?I'm saying that if piccolo improved 100 millions without fusions or gravity why couldn't Tenshinhan improve 20 millions?MFG dumb old theory:Without Nail or Kami he probably would be hard pressed to do so. Krillin is stronger then Tien and Yamcha and he gets destroyed by base Frieza. Considering Nail didn't ever bring anything about Namekian heritage or any other Nameks into the equation as he talked to Piccolo, it's a HUGE and retarded assumption to think he's comparing his battle power to them. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end. Tenshinhan versus Krillin/ Who is stronger. Once the Mini Monk tanks a slew of direct hits - including a variant of Bruce Lee's legendary Dragon Stomp - the fake Lee realizes he may be outmatched. (Namekian Fusion, Zenkai's, SSJ forms)Answer:Not again dumbass!!!!!! Kneel down and kiss the wilson pro staff!!!!! He could easily be hurt from the attack, also note how there is smoke coming from his body.SK It doesn't drain life force, that was a viz mistake. During the namek events tien trains with kaio but krillin has his potential unlocked by guru- which is the better power up? They fought alongsid… The possibilities are limitless. After the Cell Games Krillin stopped training and got married. These 40-tons are ridiculous for obvious reasons.In daizenshuu 7 Page 119"Just, there cannot have a big difference between the base fighting potential and his original base (powerlevel)to use it , and if the fighter persists in carrying out a very powerful kaioken his body can explode under the effect of a powerful energy discharge.For the one whose fighting potential reaches 8.000 the limits to use safely kaioken must be the double, that is to say 16.000.For the one who has a potential of 3.000.000 kaioken canincrease his powerlevel ten more times "The text about kaioken also states that kaioken uses life forceFrench daizenshuu also states that neo kikoho is a stronger version from kikoho.But, above you could read that if you use an attack with life force and your power level is too low,your body will explode.Regarding daizenshuu is clear to me that this text suggests that Tenshinhan had a power level in the millions.It clearly states that your body can explodeif you use an attack who is a lot stronger than your base power levelex:Goku to use safely his kaio ken x 10 had to reach 3 millions.So shin kikoho is a lot more powerful than kaioh ken x 10 or 20 and if Ten's body didn't explode it is obvious thathe had a pl in the millions.Dumb MFG old theory:But Piccolo's power is most definitely due to the Nail fusion. He would lose power.Dumb MFG old theory:Gravity was one of the reasons Goku increased his power from 400 to 8,000. He also brought up Dende; Is he now in the hundreds of millions too?Answer:Again with mindless shit fucking imbecile? It is funny when humans improve more and faster than Goku in Kami's lookout in a short period of time you say, This scan from the Daizenshuu states that. Krillin is not naturally bald; due to his original monastic training, he merely shaves his head and waxes it. Presented as a worthy challenger to Dragon Ball's Goku, Tien even manages - with some luck - to defeat the protagonist in the finale of the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament. In fact, this is probably one of the biggest debates among fans today. If Krillin were able to use it, it would probably be stronger. Could mean a lot of things though, it could have been an offhand comment to Toriyama. DBZ fan with a brain:Seeing that Tien and the others showed up to fight beings that where so much powerful than freeza shows that they were in the millions specially, cos they felt Freeza’s suppressed level and afterwards Piccolo told them to not show up if they couldn’t become strong enough and that is the reason why tenshinhan left Chaozu behind.Here you can see Piccolo's warning to Tenshinhan,Krillin and Yamcha:Akira Toriyama uses his wisest member Piccolo to tell us that Tenshinhan,Yamcha and Krillin would get to the millions during those 3 years of training,ie,the ones who couldn't reach a battle power in the millions shouldn't show up.They showed up to fight specially Tenshinhan.Obviously, anyone out of the millions or bellow Freeza's supressed battle power who was at least above 3 millions would get in the way.Its just for the series to retain any form of logicality, he needs to be in the low millions. That's more than Android 16 and Android 18 did, as he completely no selled their attacks. don't be an idiot, even in Dragonball Krillin did better against Tien than Yamcha. To get to 1,500,000, he'd have to increase his power by 500,000.Answer:Are you fucking retarded??? Krillin is the weakest. Question. This has been a debate I've seen so many times throughout the years from the Dragon Ball franchise. That is, once again, just going by the logic established in the series and ignoring Toriyama 's typical haphazardness.Answer:Are you fucking retarded?????? he has physical idiosyncrasies that can't be considered that of an Earthling, such as splitting into four people, and growing arms from his shoulders. In the past, it was clear that Roshi had been surpassed by Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and even Chiaotzu, but this may no longer be true.If he's stronger than Tien, there's a good chance that he could defeat Yamcha and Krillin as well. are all considered weak because they cant stop making the saiyans stronger and stronger. Kaio's training is that good.Tenshinhan always has shown that he could make leaps in power in a short amount of time. Since Nail's been living some of his life with a power of 42K, having a power of 42K or less is obviously "believable" to him. 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